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GIANT KILLERS

 

1930

 1929 - 1931

Manchester United 0-2 Swindon Town

Third round: Saturday January 11th 1930

Attendance: 33,226

Scorers: Joe Eddleston {29}, Les Roberts {65} {pictured}

Ranked at the time:25

Today: Outside the top 100

When the draw for the third round of the 1930 competition was made many Mancunians must have thought to themselves that it was just about time that an old score was settled. Sixteen years had passed since they'd last faced the Railwaymen of Swindon and had suffered a cupset in the process. Harold Fleming's last minute goal that day almost certainly figured highly in the conversation of the 1,500 Swindonians who made the journey to Old Trafford but few travelled with any great hope of a repeat by a third division side that hadn't won away in twenty-three attempts dating back thirteen months. For the best part of half an hour Swindon looked like being overwhelmed as Manchester United did all the attacking before Bertie Denyer created Swindon's first real chance. The United defenders were at sixes and sevens as his tame cross was only half cleared before McCartney swung the ball in from the opposite wing for Eddleston to finish off, silencing the 30,000 home fans. The goal evened up the game until Swindon sealed the tie with twenty-five minutes remaining. Yet again it was Denyer who burst clear before this time firing in a perfect cross that Roberts gave Steward no hope of stopping. Hope of revenge was gone as Swindon took control of the remainder of the tie with some of the best football seen of a visiting side to Old Trafford in months. Despite having United on the ropes a third goal didn't arrive, nor was it necessary as the visitors comfortably secured their fourth round birth and bettered their 1914 counterparts. The disappointment of the United fans was heightened when the fourth round draw paired Swindon with Manchester City in round four. Yet again Swindon raised their game and looked to be on the way through, albeit through a fortuitous own goal until City forced a replay late on. There was no fairytale on Swindon's second visit to Manchester as they took a ten goal mauling.

Manchester: 1:Alf Steward, 2:Charlie Moore, 3:Tom Jones, 4:Christopher Taylor, 5:Clarrie Hilditch, 6:Jack Wilson, 7:Joe Spence, 8:Thomas Boyle, 9:Jack Ball, 10:Harry Rowley, 11:George McLachlan

Swindon: 1:Teddy Nash, 2:Tommy Penn, 3:Hector Girvan, 4:David Low, 5:Brinley Humphries, 6:Archie Archer, 7:Bertie Denyer, 8:Joe Eddleston, 9:Harry Morris, 10:Les Roberts, 11:Jimmy McCartney

Liverpool 1-2 Cardiff City

Third round: Saturday January 11th 1930

Attendance:50,141

Scorers: {Liverpool} Archie McPherson {19}: {Cardiff} Len Davies {2 goals} Half time: 1-1

Ranked at the time:127

Cardiff fans were already deep in the disappointment that comes with a newly relegated club's inability to blaze a trail back into the top flight. Their relegation the previous May came at the end of a dreadful run of just one win in sixteen games, which had included two defeats at the hands of Liverpool less than a week apart at the turn of March into April. By the time the Bluebirds arrived at Anfield for their third round cup tie they were buried in mid table with little hope of promotion back to the big time but could still field three legendary names of their great team of the twenties that came so close to clinching the title in 1924 and won the cup in 1927. Keeper Tom Farquharson was an Irishman who had been expelled from Ireland by his father after his I.R.A. sympathies led to his arrest, Fred Keenor was the club captain who once famously led a team of unknown non league Welshmen to a famous draw against a full strength Scotland side and the last of the trio was forward, Len Davies whose goals, on this occasion secured their victory here after the Reds had taken the lead. The Bluebirds were unable to repeat the feat against Sunderland in round four.   

Liverpool: 1:Arthur Riley, 2:James Jackson, 3:Tommy Lucas, 4:Tom Morrison, 5:Jimmy McDougall, 6:David Davidson, 7:Dick Edmed, 8:Gordon Hodgson, 9:Jimmy Smith, 10:Archie McPherson, 11:Fred Hopkin

Cardiff: 1:Tom Farquharson, 2:Jack Jennings, 3:Bill Roberts, 4:Harry Wake, 5:Fred Keenor, 6:George Blackburn, 7:Billy Thirlaway, 8:Len Davies, 9:Jim Munro, 10:Matthew Robinson, 11:Jimmy McGrath

Grimsby Town 0-1 Brighton & Hove Albion

Third round replay: Tuesday January 14th 1930

Attendance: 12,000

Scorer: Hugh Vallance {89}

Ranked at the time: 109

{see Portsmouth vs Brighton below}

Brighton: 1:Stan Webb, 2:Harry Marsden, 3:Jack Curran, 4:Reg Wilkinson, 5:Jack Williams, 6:Harry Dutton, 7:Bobby Farrell, 8:Dan Kirkwood, 9:Hugh Vallance, 10:Thomas Potter-Smith, 11;Tug Wilson

Grimsby: 1:Tommy Read, 2:Charlie Wilson, 3:Hughie Jacobson, 4:Jock Priestley, 5:Charlie Wrack, 6:Teddy Buck, 7:Jack Prior, 8:Jackie Bestall, 9:Tim Coleman, 10:Steve Coughlin, 11:Billy Marshall

Portsmouth 0-1 Brighton & Hove Albion

Fourth round: Saturday January 25th 1930

Attendance: 37,592

Scorer: Hugh Vallance {63}

Ranked at the time: 76

Today: Outside the top 200

Brighton had been widely regarded as the best team in the third division throughout the twenties but consistently fell short of the solitary promotion place on offer. While the Seagulls were unable to last the pace in League football they had a side dangerous enough to regularly upset the odds in cup ties. The Goldstone Ground had been a fortress all season so Grimsby were perhaps relieved to come away from Brighton with a hard earned replay at Blundell Park. Brighton's late replay victory was fully deserved but there was room for a little sympathy for the beaten top flight club who were reduced to ten men early in the game when Tim Coleman was carried of injured and then had a seemingly good goal ruled out by a referee who judged the ball hadn't crossed the line. Brighton created several chances and looked set to be thwarted by the heroics of Tommy Read until Hugh Vallance headed a last gasp winner. That set up a trip down the coast to last season's cup runners up Portsmouth who had recovered from an awful start to the season to find a decent patch of form going into the tie. Despite fielding eight of their cup final side, Pompey never could get into their stride though and paid dearly when Gilfilan got caught in two minds when making for a through ball and gifted Vallance his second cup scalp. Next up was a trip to Newcastle where the largest crowd ever to watch the Seagulls prepared for the very real possibility of another cupset as the Magpies fielded four reserves due to injuries. The tie was a tale of two Hughs, Brighton's Vallance who was unable to convert a hat-trick of chances and Newcastle's Gallacher, the lethal ill fated Scot who took his chances with relish to complete a hat-trick in the three-nil victory.

Portsmouth: 1:John Gilfillan, 2:Alex Mackie, 3:Billy Smith, 4:Jimmy Nichol, 5:Bob Kearney, 6:David Thackeray, 7:Fred Forward, 8:Jack Smith, 9:Jack Weddle, 10:Jimmy Easson, 11;Fred Cook

Brighton: 1:Stan Webb, 2:Harry Marsden, 3:Jack Curran, 4:Reg Wilkinson, 5:Jack Williams, 6:Harry Dutton, 7:Bobby Farrell, 8:Dan Kirkwood, 9:Hugh Vallance, 10:Thomas Potter-Smith, 11;Tug Wilson

Bradford Park Avenue 2-1 Derby County

Fourth round replay: Wednesday January 29th 1930

Attendance: 29,735

Scorers: {Bradford}: Walter Millership {35}, Bert Davis {72}: {Derby} Peter Ramage {9}

Ranked at the time: 73

Today: Outside the top 200

The idea of a panel of selectors being used instead of a manager is unheard of today but back in the 1920s Bradford decided it was a better idea than using a manager. It was one of those rare occasions where the selectors proved more successful as the club won the Third Division North title in 1928 and missed out on promotion back to the big time by just five points when finishing third in 1929. This season Bradford were yet again in the thick of the fight to earn top flight football with a side that included ex England and Preston man Alf Quantrill and the Ex Northern Ireland and Manchester City right half, Jimmy Elwood when they were given the chance to test themselves against top flight opponents in a fourth round trip to Derby. The Rams weren't expected to encounter any problems as Bradford arrived at the Baseball ground gambling on the fitness of Alf Quantrill and George McLean but it was a gamble that paid off when both played key roles in securing a replay at Park Avenue. Despite the great confidence expressed by the home fans it was Derby who started the better and took a deserved early lead when Bedford's shot crashed back off a post for Peter Ramage to tuck home. Ten minutes before the break Bradford were level when Quantrill's cross was headed goalwards by Walter Millership. Jack Clough rose well to deal easily with the effort but was unable to evade the attentions of Harwood and McLean who between them bundled keeper and ball into the goal. In the pre war era it was the job of the full backs to protect the keeper from such treatment. The referee's view of affairs was simply that the full backs had failed to do their job and the goal stood. Only Clough made any attempt to complain and the goal was credited to Millership, despite his header never having looked likely to find the net. Bradford were the better side for the remainder of the game, spurred on largely by the crowd whose growing belief that a cupset was on seemed to be transmitting itself to the players, or at least most of the players. Bert Davis, on the right wing had been the target for many Bradford attacks during the second half but more often than not the local boy failed to control the ball, over ran it or put in a poor cross that was easy for Clough and his defenders to deal with. The players began playing the ball down Quantrill's left wing instead, despite the former Derby man now looking increasingly tired and the need for quality on the right wasn't lost on the fans who had choice comments for Davis whenever the believed him within ear shot. Football fans have always been a fickle lot though and when Millership's drive was only parried by Clough, they rose as one to cheer when, of all people, Davis was quickest to react and fire the ball into the net before the keeper could recover. Derby gave it their best effort in the eighteen minutes that remained but extra time would have been gruelling for two teams who played football at such a break neck pace. The vast majority of the crowd certainly didn't want an equaliser for the visitors and their choice words for Davis were forgotten at the final whistle when he was the main target of those wishing to congratulate the victors. Bradford had earned a trip to the best team in the land, Sheffield Wednesday but the champions were in no mood to mess about in front of their own fans and kept their dreams of a League and Cup double alive in emphatic style, winning 5-1. Despite the heavy sounding nature of the defeat, Bradford were highly praised for having given the champions a stern test, not least their scorer, Walter Millership who, before the month was out, returned to Hillsborough where he put pen to paper for £2,600. Millership played six games and scored once to help his new Sheffield team mates retain their title, though he himself did not earn a medal, having not played enough games. Millership wasn't alone in going on to better things as George McLean joined Huddersfield before the year was out where he made over a century of appearances and helped the club to runners up in the League in 1934. It was local boy Davis who went on to trump them both as he was signed by Sunderland in 1932, going on to be a major part of their 1936 title winning side. Poor Bradford however could only manage to finish fourth in the Second Division and missed out on regaining their top flight status they had lost nine years earlier. By the middle of the decade their promotion chasing side had broken up and the club would never again build a side good enough to push for top flight football.

Derby: 1:Harry Wilkes, 2:Tommy Cooper, 3:George Collin, 4:Johnny McIntyre, 5:Jack Barker, 6:Gavin Malloch, 7:Sammy Crooks, 8:Bobby Barclay, 9:Harry Bedford, 10:Peter Ramage, 11:George Mee

Bradford: 1:Jack Clough, 2:Alec Bentley, 3:Tommy Lloyd, 4:Harold Taylor, 5:Jimmy Elwood, 6:Syd Dickinson, 7:Bert Davis, 8:George McLean, 9:Irvine Harwood, 10:Walter Millership, 11:Alf Quantrill

Manchester City 1-2 Hull City

Fifth round: Saturday February 15th 1930

Attendance: 61,574

Scorers: {Manchester} Ernie Toseland: {Hull} Paddy Mills, Billy Taylor

Ranked at the time:18

Today: Inside the top 90

Manchester: 1:Lewis Barber, 2:?, 3:Billy Felton, 4:Matt Barrass, 5:Sam Cowan, 6:Jimmy McMullan, 7:Ernie Toseland, 8:Bobby Marshall, 9:?, 10:?, 11:Eric Brook

Hull: 1:Fred Gibson, 2:George Goldsmith, 3:Jimmy Howieson, 4:?, 5:Arthur Childs, 6:Bill Gowdy, 7:Billy Taylor, 8:Paddy Mills, 9:Stan Alexander, 10:Ronnie Starling, 11:Dally Duncan

Nottingham Forest 3-1 Sunderland

Fifth round replay: Wednesday February 19th 1930

Attendance: 30,016

Scorers:{Nottingham}: Leo Loftus {80}, Jack Scott {81}, Noah Burton {89}, {Sunderland}:Billy Eden {39}

Ranked at the time:136

It was perhaps the manner of their defeat rather than the defeat itself that lived long in the memory of the Rokerites who witnessed this tie. Sunderland dominated the first game at Roker Park and were seemingly coasting to a comfortable 2-0 victory against a Second Division Forest side whose only victories in their nine games since Christmas had been in their two cup ties. Six of Forest's seven league games in that time had ended all square and a reshuffle of their attack in the second half paid dividends when they took advantage of Sunderland complacency in front of goal to claw back for a replay. Although the team was picked by manager, Stan Hardy the on field tactics, for all there was of them by today's standards, were dictated by the captain, in Forest's case Noah Burton and when he found his side being outclassed in the replay at The City Ground he showed his tactical nounce yet again. Forest had actually started the replay the better of the two sides and done more than enough to lead before being caught with a sucker punch six minutes before the break. The second half was all Sunderland until ten minutes from time when Burton, deputising as captain for Forest's injured centre forward Johnny Dent, decided to move into the centre forward slot. Forest suddenly found space and time and with ten minutes left secured an unlikely equaliser when  Loftus met Scott's through ball to crash a shot in off the bar. That was the first of three telling contributions from Jack Scott, the second of which came within a minute when he turned from provider to scorer, turning the tie on its head when he drilled a good effort beyond the reach of Robinson. A shell shocked Sunderland had nothing to offer and suffered a killer blow in the last minute when Scott yet again threaded a great ball to Burton who beat at least three dazzled defenders before a cool finish to wrap up the tie. Forest had earned a home tie against the League Champions, Sheffield Wednesday in the quarter finals, which saw Clive German become the first Oxford graduate for over thirty years to play in the last eight. Yet again the team described by the press as dogged, lived up to their billing by coming from two down in seventeen minutes to force a replay at Hillsborough. Wednesday were too strong there, winning 3-1 and Forest's best cup run for a generation was over. For Tommy Graham it was the first of forty years at Forest as player and coach, making it to Wembley in 1959 as their coach in a final where he was almost as busy as the players.

Sunderland: 1:Bob Robinson, 2:Bill Thompson, 3:James Oakley, 4:Billy Clunas, 5:Sam Morris, 6:Arthur Andrews, 7:Billy Eden, 8:Adam McLean, 9:Evelyn Morrison, 10:Patsy Gallacher, 11:Gordon Gunson {Johnny Cochrane}

Nottingham: 1:Alf Dexter, 2:Bill Thompson, 3:Jimmy Barrington, 4:Billy McKinlay, 5:Tommy Graham, 6:Bob Wallace, 7:Jack Scott, 8:Clive German, 9:Billy Dickenson, 10:Leo Loftus, 11:Noah Burton {Manager-Stan Hardy}

 Hull City 1-0 Newcastle United

Quarter final replay: Thursday March 6th 1930

Attendance: 32,930 {record}

Scorers: Jimmy Howieson {46} 

Ranked at the time:164

{See Manchester City vs Hull City above}

Newcastle: 1:Albert McInroy, 2:Alf Maitland, 3:Bob Thompson, 4:Roddie MacKenzie, 5:Jack Hill, 6:Billy Eden, 7:Donald Hutchison, 8:Jimmy Richardson, 9:Hughie Gallacher, 10:?, 11:?

Hull: 1:Fred Gibson, 2:George Goldsmith, 3:Matt Bell, 4:Jimmy Howieson, 5:Arthur Childs, 6:Sam Weaver, 7:Billy Taylor, 8:Paddy Mills, 9:Stan Alexander, 10:Ronnie Starling, 11:Dally Duncan